hey Jesse, are you aware that you can put a dsm turbo setup on a F22 engine? all it takes is a bit of drilling out of the exhaust mani holes and a little bit of fab work. I've got a friend down here with that setup in his Prelude and I'm pretty impressed with the way it pulls (for a Honda).

Fuck that NA...........

because my downpipe is broken somewhere, and they only sell the whole manifold/dp. I figure by the time i buy it and have it shipped, it would cost more than the 50 shipped i paid for this header.

Oh, and i did see that i can get a dsm turbo, but i'm not sure if i'm going to go with that. From what i hear a 14b is too small for my motor, i was looking at a t3/t4 kit. I know it sounds big, but f22's are pretty low compression, and everyone that's pieced it together with dsm parts uses a 16g. I havent read too deeply into it yet, since new rear suspension and brakes are higher on my list than a turbo at the moment. My car has no rear anti roll bar, so unless you ease it into a turn the back goes all squirly.

oh and jordan, i wouldnt underestimate na, check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCYuVEWd ... re=related

No I meant lets keep it NA

ah no screw that, i need boooooost. I dont really think i can afford the 3000 dollar itb and secondary injector setup i'd want to go na.

This isn't a K series so unless he makes it a 10k reving race motor it'd be useless on the street.

There's nothing wrong with a 14b. You've got to have a higher compression than the turbo 7.8:1 dsm's so you should be able to make 250hp pretty easily on a 14b with good spool characteristics. Just because everyone else buys a laggy large turbo just to run 10psi doesn't mean you need to as well.

thank you mavis for always one up the rest of us

i've got a 14b for sale!

yeah, makes no sense to me as to why most honda guys looking for a turbo kit buy a friggen t3/t4 kit (completely over sized for their stock motor) and never do the poor turbo justice by running it at 4psi because their motor cant handle higher. Lol, those are the guys to buy from if you are looking for a used t3/t4, you can be confident that its never been run above 10-12psi. I say that a 14b/16g is a great sized turbo for a honda motor. Also, Jesse, if cost is what you are concerned about, you could probably get everything needed for a 14b setup on your car for $200.

Sweet vid there, but for some reason I couldn't stop laughing my ass off seeing that little Insight haul ass like that, looked like one of those wind up mice... running on nitro.

well a t3/t4 from what i hear isnt too oversized for a f22, considering it's a 2.2l and stock compression ratio is 8.5:1 i believe, it might be 8:1. Unlike a b or k series we run pretty low compression stock so more boost can be run. A lot of people are running 14b's, but i'd probably go with a 16g to start. I need to do a compression test, i didnt get a chance the last time i changed spark plugs. I suspect my motor might not be original, it has brand new axles and runs better than any other car with 283k miles. but if i can get ahold of the turbo parts cheaply enough and my compression is decent, i'll take the head off and get a new head gasket if it looks like it could use it, and see if the pistons/cylinders look good, and if it looks decent i might run a turbo on this motor. Otherwise i'm going to pick up another used f22 and rebuild it.

For now, i have to do my oil/tranny fluid/coolant, i have a new fuel filter as well, and i was going to see if my egr valve wants to come off just to check how bad those ports are. The exhaust is really high on the list though, i cant really use my outside vent on my heater because at stoplights it pretty much sucks in pure exhaust.

I'm glad to hear that you are heading in the right direction with the project. A compression check would be a great idea for starters. Since you are planning on tearing into the motor, I'd say the most important internal mods for you would be some good rings, MLS headgasket, and some headstuds. That will give your motor the ability to handle the higher pressures from the turbo. Stock honda headgaskets are a joke.

yeah tasauto has a set of arp headstuds for the accord/prelude, and i'd have to check on the gasket. I'm also going to order a timing belt/water pump kit, and seal kit/main seal and retainer. The crank seal has a tencency to just walk out of its seat and drain all of your oil in a hurry. But thats why honda made a little clip to fix it, i dont know if my car has it though since i havent had the lower timing belt cover off (i ripped the upper off, it was either that or take the driver's side motor mount off to get that rusted bolt off) but i'll probably check it when i'm working on the steering rack. I'll try to do valve lash and replace the lower tube seals the next chance i get, because two of them leak when the plugs are out. That means its probably only a matter of time before they leak with the plugs in, and i already have the seals in the closet

am i in the right place? this is alot of honda talk for a dsm forum.

Hahaha. I agree.

yeah but it's hard to get just the people who run turbos to reply to threads on a honda board, and thats pretty much what you guys have going here